Sunday, April 7, 2024

Giants eke out a win

SF 3  SD 2

Logan Webb gave up a lot of contact today—12 groundouts and 10 hits, nine of them singles—but didn't walk anyone and kept the ball in the yard. He got 21 outs and gave up two runs. It looked like that would be enough for San Diego to take the rubber match. But the over-matched Giants lineup got some help from Padres shortstop Ha-Seong Kim who made errors in the 6th and the 8th that led to runs. It was enough to overcome an otherwise feeble offensive effort.

A struggling Jung-Hoo Lee reached base leading off the 6th on Kim's first error, a bad throw. With the bases loaded and one out an infield chopper from Matt Chapman plated the run. In the 8th Wilmer Flores (pinch-hitting for LaMonte Wade, Jr.) singled with one out. Tyler Fitzgerald, pinch-running, raced to third on a blooper from Jorge Soler, just beating Fernando Tatis' throw. Michael Conforto hit a grounder to first and Jake Cronenworth stepped on the bag for the second out and threw to second for the tag play to end the inning. Kim then missed the ball for his second error. Fitzgerald scored and Soler, who never stopped running, made it to third. Giants finally had a little luck go their way. They capitalized on the break with a hit from Chapman that scored the go-ahead run.

Ryan Walker looked really good in a scoreless 8th and Camilo Doval struck out two batters in the 9th, gave up a hit, then got a strikeout to end it.

We finally get to see Thirty-million Dollar Man Blake Snell. He's listed as the starter tomorrow night (6:45 Pacific) against the visiting Washington Nationals.

Go Giants!

--M.C.

7 comments:

nomisnala said...

I know there was an error on the play, but if you cannot assume a double play, why did Conforto not get the RBI? If he gets the out at second, and then he is safe at first he gets the rbi, but if out at first, and the play is errant to second, he does not get it. But I have seen obvious DP's where the throw to first easily would have gotten the runner, but either the throw was wild, or the first baseman bobbled it, and the batter gets the RBI. Baseball needs to get a tad more consistent with its scorekeeping. Either you can assume to the DP or you Cannot. Should not matter how the first baseman chooses to go about it. I know, there was no longer a force play at second, but how many times have you seen the error either on the throw or on the fielding of a classical DP, and you hear the line: (you cannot assume the double play).

M.C. O'Connor said...

I think you can't assume the runner will score from third on the grounder to first base. If there is no runner going to second then the first baseman just freezes the runner with a look, thus no run and so no RBI. The throw and resulting error enabled the run to score, thus no RBI.

Soler didn't know it was a tag play. If he had, he should have stopped and forced Kim to come toward him for the tag thus giving the runner from third time to score. Instead he ran into the DP. If Kim had held the ball no run would have scored on the timing play.

Anonymous said...

I see that, but just like any other ground ball double play, when the DP is apparent, but the ball is dropped by the first baseman, or the fielder throws the ball wild, and the runner scores, the batter gets the rbi, as one cannot assume the double play. So the first baseman trying to get the DP in the non-traditional way cost Conforto the RBI. Had he thrown to second, and the error made on the throwback to first, the RBI would have been granted.

M.C. O'Connor said...

The batted ball did not score the run. The batted ball resulted in an out (3-U) and the runner from third did not score on that play. He scored on a fielder's attempt to get an unforced, imperiled runner.

The RBI on a failed traditional double play is due to a fielder's choice. The fielder chooses to get the out at second thus "allowing" the batter-runner a chance to be safe. (I think a hitter should get an RBI on a DP even if the DP is completed.) Of course with one out the DP negates the run, that is, there is no timing play when there are force outs to end the inning.

RBIs are a goofy stat.

nomisnala said...

Just an aside: I wonder what the record is for how many games a team can go before they get their first stolen base?

M.C. O'Connor said...

Giants team OBP is .293 and the league average is .318 so we can see WHY they don't steal bases! But it is weird to see a zero.

I like to say the only record I care about is the team win-loss record, but a record for having zero of something looks bad.

And what's with Patrick Bailey? Is it just me? It seems like his fielding has really dropped off and he's making a lot of mistakes.

nomisnala said...

He is having more passed balls than Posey. He is dropping balls, and his throws have been less than optimal. The throw that caught Slater stealing second by Washington was an absolutely perfect throw. We need throws like that from Bailey. I wonder if his injury is having a greater effect than what is being admitted.