Saturday, June 10, 2017

Giants Come Up Short--Again

MIN 3  SF 2
Go to the ESPN MLB statistics page. Select the ALL MLB Player Pitching link. Click on Expanded II Pitching Stats. Find the RS column near the right-hand edge. One click will sort ascending, click again to sort descending. RS is 'run support average per start.' Coming in to today's game you would have seen that Giants starter Jeff Samardzija was fourth on the list. That is, he had the fourth-worst run support in the game at 3.08 runs. It should be noted that Matt Moore, Matt Cain, and Ty Blach are all in the top twenty. Such are the signs of a stinky season. The Shark allowed three runs today in his six innings. The Giants, in their nine innings, scored two. That's easy math, mates.

--M.C.

7 comments:

M.C. O'Connor said...

According to B-R the Giants are scoring 3.56 rpg and the ML average is 4.58 rpg.

nomisnala said...

bochy has been great. right now we need someone else

M.C. O'Connor said...

I do believe Bochy is getting old, and that the team needs to look ahead, maybe a few years, and have a transition plan. But he is not the issue with the 2017 Giants. The players have to perform and they have not. The team needs an infusion of youth and talent for next year. I think Boch is still the best person on the field to oversee that re-structuring/re-building. Once the key new pieces are in place and the long-term plan emerges I could see Boch retiring or getting kicked upstairs. Two more seasons after this and he passes 4000 games and leaps over Alston, Durocher, and Stengel. You know the organization would like that. He's the current 'professor emeritus' of the game what with Torre, Cox, LaRussa, Davey Johnson and etc. all done with managing.


campanari said...

If I were Bochy, I would want to toddle off to Tahiti or marinate myself in a Marin winery, rather than have to put up with the batch of non-performers I was stuck with. But why the Giants should want a new manager, nomisnala, or why you should declare that they do, I have no idea whatsoever. Nor for that matter, MC, do I know why you would agree or disagree with nomisnala's ipse-dixit declaration.

The guy had the best team in baseball, by record, till the A-S break in 2016, and one of the worst ever since then. Was he not too old a year ago, but too old now? What should he have done last July, nomisnala, and since? Why should he stay on now, MC, but then fade away at 60--and is 60 old?

nomisnala said...

the team simply stopped playing for him. perhaps he thought it would run on autopilot last year after the all star break. They were primed for a let down. He is not able to motivate this team to win. they just may be too comfortable with him . maybe he can turn the team around by changing his approach? it is more likely that someone else my be able to rekindle this team's fire to win. I would give him until the end of June to turn this team around,otherwise i kick him upstairs and go to another option.

M.C. O'Connor said...

Managers start to go in their mid-60s. Boch is 62. He's had heart issues. It's time to start the plan. Don't misunderstand me, I love the man and think he's awesome. No manager has done more for the franchise. He has as many rings as John McGraw! He can stay as long as he likes. But I think it's realistic to think someone like Jose Alguacil might get the call in three years.

campanari said...

Thank you, nomisnala and MC, for responding to my being nonplussed. I agree, MC, that with his heart problems, Bochy might well think of retiring in 2020, say, when he's 65, a canonical quitting age. But I'm v unsure that managers start slipping vis-a-vis the team when they're in their '60s--BB is a bit younger than last year's WS manager Joe Maddon.

As to motivating the team to win, nomisnala, I'm reminded of the great theatrical producer/director George Abbott, who was once faced with a Method actor who was botching a part. "Wait, Mr. Abbott, wait," the actor implored. "I need to discover my motivation. What is my motivation?" "Your job," said Abbott. The Giants have young players whose motivation is their job, in a ruthlessly competitive profession; and they have players on longer-term contracts, whose motivation isn't so immediately their job. Presumably self-interest, not the manager, will spur the first group; and if professional pride and the fans aren't enough to spur the second group--that is, if they are less conspicuously rotund versions of Pablo Sandoval, luxuriating in assured paydays--why should we think that a new manager can get them out of their lethargic indifference or complacency?